Before I start, let me say that I’m uncomfortable talking about another persons religion, so I’ll make this post quick and short.
The Obedient Wives Club (OWC) has, in it’s very own way made Malaysia world famous. They have asked wives to serve their husbands like first class prostitutes and promote group sex among husband and wives.
- Group sex anyone? Photo by ideagrove.com
They claim to be Islamic in nature.
The funny thing is, a few Muslims I know say that ‘group sex’, even within husband and wives isn’t allowed in Islam, or in our Malaysian way of saying “HAAAARAAAAAAAMMMMM!!!!!“
As a non-Muslim, I wasn’t convinced, and so I did some ‘Googling’.
The amount of answers on Yahoo Answer says it’s HARAM/WRONG/SICK. Now, don’t get me started on the part where they asked wives to be like first class prostitutes. It’s degrading, shameful and a complete bad taste of words.
Now, here’s another interesting point. My friends which I did ask, never claimed to be pious, nor showed that they are. However, if asked, they will explain in detail about their religion, while being carefully not to offend myself, and the rest of the non-Muslims around listening. You don’t hear them putting other religion down. I have huge respect for these type of people, and I firmly believe they are the ones which can make the world much better. On that note, I wonder why a group such as the OWC can ask wives to perform something deemed wrong in a religion they claim to represent, and even better, why on earth are they ‘legal’?
Correct me if I am wrong, but they seem to be highlighting so much on sex in a marriage. Is sex key towards a happy married life? I’m not married, so I can’t say… but I have a good feeling it isn’t. However, if you feel otherwise, please enlighten me =)
Last but not least, to be completely honest, I find that one of most annoying yet insensitive question one can ask is the : “So when are you going to embrace Islam?“. I bet, if I were to ask the same question (‘So when are you going to be a Christian?’) to a Muslim, they’d be equally annoyed. If your religion is good enough, you do not have to ask because one will follow your faith after you have set a good example. Asking such a question to another person of another faith, regardless of what religion you belong to is most certainly not giving that good example.
As a Muslim myself — though I’m considered “progressive” and “modern” (whatever those connotations mean by the ones who create them) — I say this an excellent post, and eye-opening not just to non-Muslims, but to Muslim readers as well — whatever “sect” they belong to.
1) YES, it is “haram” (forbidden), otherwise the whole concept of “aurat” (“boundaries”) between women themselves, and the prohibition of sexual activities between women, would not exist in Islam! [“Aurat” concept, a.k.a. “covering up” or “boundaries” even exist between family members. The ONLY, and I repeat, the ONLY case/situation where aboslutely no “batasan aurat” exists is between man and wife. Between wives, it still exists.] — My God, anybody who really learned anything about Islamic Studies would know this BLASPHEMOUS practice (point 3) encouraged by the OWC / Global Ikhwan group is HARAM!
2) Having said that, OWC / Global Ikhwan group claims to a an “Islamic” club??? The logic of such notion fails me. What fails me more are the blind and deaf sheep who actually follow/believe in these groups! Not sure if they have a logical dysfunction in their brain, or they’re just plain “Satanic” (next point)
3)Blasphemy. Now this point may be a bit too radical/schizo for some, but hey it’s my personal opinion (a.k.a. DISCLAIMER), so let me say it, yeah: The “practices” (or should we say “sexual rituals”) encouraged as mentioned above (the group sex-*WORSHIP* thing proposed sounds eerily similar to the Illuminati/NWO/Masonic/AntiChrist/Dajjal/SATANIC rituals, orgies — see
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5402349 ) — enthusiasts of anti-Illuminati would know that one modus operandi of Dajjal/AntiChrist is to infiltrate religion and corrupt it from within. Global Ikhwan anyone?
4) And by the way… it’s even mentioned in HuffPost (an international article) that Global Ikhwan is an offshoot of the Al-Arqam so-claimed “Islamic” group, which was — get this — OUTLAWED in Malaysia in 1994 because they were found to have terribly deviated from Islamic teaching! So why are the Global Ikhwan / OWC still around? What happened? I smell rotten fish…
5) You’re right, sex isn’t the ONLY important thing or “key” in marriage — well maybe for cavemen, yes — but otherwise it wouldn’t be called “marriage” in the first place, they wouldn’t be calle “husband” or “wife”, they’ll just be called “my sex partner” or as OWC nicely put it “whore/sex slave” [excuse the language] — these primitive cavemen (and women) have absolutely no idea what “marriage” really means, and what’s worse, PREACH their misguided “teachings” as doctrine!
6) And finally, Cyril — EXCELLENT analogy! “When are you going to be a ?” LOL — people will never understand the feelings of the other, until and unless they’re forced to be in their shoes. God says all human beings are equal, so no one has the “upper hand” or right to “not treat you the way I want to/should be treated” — I seriously that kind of egocentric thought is just childish and immature. These people need to grow up, go out there, travel, and broaden their horizons and knowledge and not sound like such witless idiots.
Again, sorry about the long comment :p
Forgot to put up the Huffpost link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/05/obedient-wives-club-malaysia_n_871447.html
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WTF? I thought they were outlawed???
Thank you so much for the insights =)
Very eye opening indeed for many i believe.
And yes, they were outlawed, but somehow.. the managed to come back *scratching head over what had happened*
i honestly think that sex is not a topic to be discussed so openly, that an official religious body or organization would publish a book encouraging its practitioners to indulge in it, especially in such explicit and arguable manner.
Nonetheless, the damage has been done. It is interesting to see how things progress from here, surely the more traditionalist Muslims would not just sit idle and not do anything.
Some of the actions by the OWC are truly questionable. It was as if they have never considered the consequences of their actions, and what values that they represent. I guess they fail to identify the root causes (which should have been the major concerns) of high divorce rate.
I agree with you bro. Sex should not be discussed in public. I’m not sure about the rest, but even sex jokes are best not to be told across gender. Maybe im a traditionalist, but talking dirty/saying sex jokes in front of the opposite sex is kind of weird for me.
Kelab tok utk lelaki gila seks kali. Malas jua ku nak komen pjg.
hahaha… =)
Eh I missed this post! you must be updating too fast no wonder I missed out. Was actually waiting for you or someone to blog about this, and emmm actually planned on writing my piece on the issue, but i wait for the right moment still (maybe when something explodes…).
But the fact that this Club endorses groupsex is beyond belief. I mean, REALLYY? that’s just wroooonggg. And right after telling wives to act like first class whore to sex-tify their husbands. how do they know so much about what a first class whore does, i wonder. and sorry, but what does all these sex teaching have to do with fighting Jews?? i think i read that somewhere in the excerpts of the book. I wonder what else will come next.
where got fast. 2 days space for each post, and some even more. You must be the one being busy =P
Anyway, it would be interesting to see what they will come up soon =)